The Final Zone

The ramblings of a nerdy bisexual twentysomething socialist wannabe-author.

You'll find a lot of talk about Doctor Who, bisexuality and then a mix of general fandom stuff here. This may include some ranting. Spoiler warning: If you really like Moffat, you should probably avoid my blog.

I'm lucky enough to have a wonderful girlfriend/soulmate, Caitlin, who makes my life far richer. Once she described as "like a very sensual monkey." I'm strangely proud of this.

And Grace Holloway thinks I'm pretty.




There seems to be an odd trend reoccuring in the bisexuality tag. Namely, pansexuals complaining that an inclusive definition of bisexuality is actually somehow repressing and erasing pansexuality. Once was bizarre enough, but when it’s happening multiple times… No. Let’s just stop this now. Look, if your entire definition of pansexuality is so reliant on inaccurate stereotypes about bisexuality that they fall apart without them, the problem is on your end. There are plenty of reasonable and inoffensive ways to define pansexuality that aren’t wholly reliant on us, and numerous wonderful pansexual bloggers here on Tumblr who do their best to spread them and create some positivity. Please look them up.

Pansexuality has a lot of crossover with bisexuality, and we face many of the same problems - monosexism, erasure, stereotypes. Ignoring that and sending these spiteful messages will not make us magically more different. Bisexual people will not suddenly say “Well, I guess I can’t be attracted to people outside the gender binary after all, fancy that!” It just makes us wonder what the hell is happening in the pansexual community that’s causing people to think like this. 





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pansexual-confessions:


Submitted by buchaki

Please note that this post is not meant to offend anyone!

It makes me pissy. It makes me pissy because it implies that sexually fluid people and pansexuals are just bisexuals, and thus are included in Bisexuality Day.
Fuck. Off. With. That. Shit.

Haha, oh dear. This is rather ironic. Back on that day, there was a lot of complaining on Tumblr about how Pansexuals weren’t being included, and that the Bisexual community were being cruel for not acknowledging them. Oh, and the day should be renamed, despite the fact that it was never intended to cover the Pansexual community in the first place, being a day just for the celebration of Bisexuality.
We just can’t win, can we?
My answer now is what it was then. Celebrate Bisexuality Day was created by a small group of Bisexual activists (3, in fact) who wanted to have a day for Bisexuality. The Pansexual community should do the same. If there’s space in the calendar for a smegging “Ally Week”, then Pansexuals can have their own day independent of ours. Just spread the word through social media and local LGBTQ groups around the globe. Come to an agreement on something simple, like how C.B.D. used Freddie Mercury’s birth month. Create your day, and celebrate. We will cheer you on.
When that is established, maybe Pansexuals can be removed from that Wikipedia page, people won’t complain about not being visible on a day not aimed at them, and everyone can quit the smegging annoying sniping.

asspiringdictionary:

pansexual-confessions:

Submitted by buchaki

Please note that this post is not meant to offend anyone!

It makes me pissy. It makes me pissy because it implies that sexually fluid people and pansexuals are just bisexuals, and thus are included in Bisexuality Day.

Fuck. Off. With. That. Shit.

Haha, oh dear. This is rather ironic. Back on that day, there was a lot of complaining on Tumblr about how Pansexuals weren’t being included, and that the Bisexual community were being cruel for not acknowledging them. Oh, and the day should be renamed, despite the fact that it was never intended to cover the Pansexual community in the first place, being a day just for the celebration of Bisexuality.

We just can’t win, can we?

My answer now is what it was then. Celebrate Bisexuality Day was created by a small group of Bisexual activists (3, in fact) who wanted to have a day for Bisexuality. The Pansexual community should do the same. If there’s space in the calendar for a smegging “Ally Week”, then Pansexuals can have their own day independent of ours. Just spread the word through social media and local LGBTQ groups around the globe. Come to an agreement on something simple, like how C.B.D. used Freddie Mercury’s birth month. Create your day, and celebrate. We will cheer you on.

When that is established, maybe Pansexuals can be removed from that Wikipedia page, people won’t complain about not being visible on a day not aimed at them, and everyone can quit the smegging annoying sniping.



NO. I remember when I saw this go around the first time, and it’s still idiotic. That’s not what the ‘bi’ refers to, and this is giving bisexuality a description that most bisexuals disagree with. This is everything that’s wrong with the pansexual community.
In actual fact, there’s a lot of overlap between bisexuality and pansexuality, but people try and distance this because they somehow feel it’s necessary to make pansexuality seem more unique, as well as a hefty chunk of biphobia.

NO. I remember when I saw this go around the first time, and it’s still idiotic. That’s not what the ‘bi’ refers to, and this is giving bisexuality a description that most bisexuals disagree with. This is everything that’s wrong with the pansexual community.

In actual fact, there’s a lot of overlap between bisexuality and pansexuality, but people try and distance this because they somehow feel it’s necessary to make pansexuality seem more unique, as well as a hefty chunk of biphobia.

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Submitted by glorious-nude-purpose

Interesting that bisexuals are singled out here. Does this mean that you don’t look down on straight/gay/lesbian people who refuse to consider trans* people as potential partners? What a very odd distinction!
Of course, I imagine this is entirely unrelated to the trend within the pansexual community of painting bisexuals as transphobic/rigidly adhering to the gender binary, despite all evidence to the contrary. 

Submitted by glorious-nude-purpose

Interesting that bisexuals are singled out here. Does this mean that you don’t look down on straight/gay/lesbian people who refuse to consider trans* people as potential partners? What a very odd distinction!

Of course, I imagine this is entirely unrelated to the trend within the pansexual community of painting bisexuals as transphobic/rigidly adhering to the gender binary, despite all evidence to the contrary. 

(Source: pansexual-confessions)




Submitted by theatreshorty

I’m sorry, since when is that the Bi AND Pan awareness day? It was created as “Celebrate Bisexuality Day”. While Pansexuality should definitely be highlighted with a day (Hell, if allies can get a whole week, Bi and Pan should get the same, if not more), this was a day created by Bisexuals within the Bisexual community to highlight Bisexual visibility, put in September because it was the birth month of Freddie Mercury, himself a famous Bisexual.
So please don’t try and claim that we’re being nasty by somehow excluding Pansexuals from a day that was never about them in the first place. There’s something for the Pansexual community to do! Make a Celebrate Pansexual Day, and I will cheer you on and do what I can to spread its visibility. But please don’t co-opt our one day of the year, and then try and make us feel bad for having it.

Submitted by theatreshorty

I’m sorry, since when is that the Bi AND Pan awareness day? It was created as “Celebrate Bisexuality Day”. While Pansexuality should definitely be highlighted with a day (Hell, if allies can get a whole week, Bi and Pan should get the same, if not more), this was a day created by Bisexuals within the Bisexual community to highlight Bisexual visibility, put in September because it was the birth month of Freddie Mercury, himself a famous Bisexual.

So please don’t try and claim that we’re being nasty by somehow excluding Pansexuals from a day that was never about them in the first place. There’s something for the Pansexual community to do! Make a Celebrate Pansexual Day, and I will cheer you on and do what I can to spread its visibility. But please don’t co-opt our one day of the year, and then try and make us feel bad for having it.

(Source: pansexual-confessions)


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What I anticipate the Pansexual tag being:

What the Pansexual tag actually is:

What I anticipate the Pansexuality tag being:

  • Absolutely full of biphobia and identity policing of bisexuals.

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True: there are a lot of superiority issues that a mass of people who identify as pansexual need to learn to stomach. As if pansexuality is the most elite of all sexualities, which it obviously is not. I think that stems from a major lack of maturity and a complete misunderstanding of the concept of sexual orientation as a whole. But please understand, that I did not, in anyway, come from that point of view when I created this post, and most definitely do not see bisexuality or any sexuality for that matter as lesser or inferior. If it does offend you, please let me know, I will immediately amend it or take it down. (Most likely just take it down.)

The LGBT community as a whole needs to have a better sense of unity, while still maintaining and recognizing the differences that make the community itself such a wonderful place for people to come when they need help dealing with orientation or identity issues. 

I’m not offended by your post, don’t worry, I just found it quite astonishing that you thought there was a focus on bisexuality, when the tag’s always seemed full of criticism of bisexuality to me. I’m talking more about the wider sphere rather than anything you’ve personally said, and I’m glad that the issues are visible to people in the pansexual community.

I will say that I’m against anyone who’s pansexual being misidentified as bi, and if I see it going on, I’ll criticise it, as none of us like that to happen, but equally, if someone genuinely doesn’t know which to identify with, and so posts about both, I think that’s perfectly acceptable.

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philosophiesofacritic:

finalowen:

philosophiesofacritic:

What I anticipate the Pansexual tag being:

What the Pansexual tag actually is:

What I anticipate the Pansexuality tag being:

  • Absolutely full of biphobia and identity policing of bisexuals.

What the Pansexuality tag actually is:

  • Absolutely full of biphobia and identity policing of bisexuals.

What this post actually meant: That bisexuality isn’t the same as pansexuality.

Nice to see someone gets my sloppily thrown together rhetoric. Personally, I’ve never encountered biphobia in the pansexuality tag. Then again, that obviously doesn’t mean it’s not there. But as a whole, the pansexuality tag is filled with bisexual blogs and posts, which prompted me to post this, stating they are two totally different things. This post had nothing to do with biphobia until you brought it up. My point is that pansexuals such as myself want to be indentified as pansexual. Not bisexual. And the fact that there is are so many bisexual specific posts only leads to confusion among people who already have a hard time grasping the concept of pansexuality. It’s makes people believe that pansexuality is the same thing as bisexuality, which we can all agree is a load of bullshit. So pansexuals getting frustrated at the amount of bisexual specific posting in the pansexual tag is not biphobia. It’s getting frustrated because we’re being misrepresented.

If you haven’t seen biphobia in that tag, then you haven’t been looking hard enough. I can never get 25 posts without seeing it, and believe me, I’ve tried. Most of the mentions of bisexuality are people criticising it, and saying how much more enlightened pansexuals are than us nasty apparently-transphobic bisexuals, which is what frustrates me when I look through that tag, and why  your post baffles me so much.

Also, there is actually a large amount of crossover between bisexuality and pansexuality. No, it isn’t exactly the same thing, but much of it depends on the definition someone identifies with. If you see bisexuality as purely being interested in cis males and cis females, then I can see why you’d feel it’s so seperate, but the fact is, that isn’t the definition of bisexuality. If I didn’t identify with the bi community, I could probably be classed as pansexual, so I can absolutely understand why people would want to post in both tags.

Also, a lot of issues - such as monosexism - are faced by both communities, and so I don’t see any harm in the communities interacting, personally.

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