Just a note, I will find it very hard to take the opinion of anyone seriously if they try to defend Moffat by saying that the quote about women being needy is actually about the mindset of Patrick from Coupling. Patrick is a figure so self-absorbed that he’d never be able to make such a generalisation about other people, so I find it nearly impossible to believe that Moffat was talking about him. Now, it would sound right coming out of the mouth of the main character Steve… Who is Moffat’s self-insert character.
One fun thing: Steven Moffat was trying to look clever and smug when they just had Stephen Hawking saying a female Doctor would be a good idea. I can’t think of any better way to make Moffat look like a smeghead.
I’ve been asked to make this rebloggable, so here we are. :P
Hurt playing a regeneration between 8 and 9 is just the weirdest thing to be upset about, lol.
There are quite a few reasons why the Hurt Doctor’s placement is something that irritates me. I’m not really upset by it, there are bigger things to be actually upset about, even when talking about someone like Moffat, but I’ll get to that.
First off, understand the context of the Eighth Doctor fandom. Our Doctor’s era mostly takes place in what’s called the “wilderness era”. Less people were aware of what’s gone on with him. Just a few days ago, someone said that Eight wasn’t a particularly good Doctor when they weren’t aware of 99% of his stories. Not their fault, just how things are. Then there are those who know of his Doctor, and actively deny it. People were swearing blind that McGann’s Doctor wasn’t ‘canon’ to the new series for a long time on the forums until proven otherwise by pictures/clips in the show itself. Most of them still say that the books/audios don’t count.
But there was a bright side for us! Eccleston’s Doctor was a fresh regeneration according to “Rose” (“Look at the ears!”) which meant… Our Doctor got the Time War! And most of the media of the last 5 years with the Eighth Doctor have moved him towards that point, from the IDW comic which showed him in the thick of the war, to the audios which give him the reason to become a warrior, particularly with the heartbreaking conclusion of “To The Death”.
And then Moffat comes along, and says “Nope, John Hurt did that!”, and honestly? It is annoying. Let’s say that Tennant really did regenerate at the end of “The Stolen Earth”, and it continued with Matt Smith. Imagine Bad Wolf Bay without Ten. It wouldn’t be the same story with “Rose Tyler… Bow ties are cool.”. It wouldn’t have the same resonance for the viewer. If you’re more of a classic fan, it wouldn’t be the same having Pertwee bidding Jamie and Zoe farewell at the end of “The War Games”. And it’s not the same having Hurt end the Time War.
Ok, that’s gone on a bit, second main point. The Hurt Doctor is an answer to a question nobody asked. Approximately 0 people cared about the story of an incarnation between 8 and 9. If he wanted to tell the story of a Doctor who fought in the Time War and had to renounce his title… Paul McGann is willing and able to return to the role at any time, and frankly, in the 50th Anniversary year, it’d be a far better thing to celebrate one of the Doctors who has supported the franchise for near-on 20 years rather than inserting a new one that’s completely superfluous.
Point three – Moffat is the least qualified person to write a conclusion/regeneration for the Eighth Doctor’s story. His only interaction with Eight is rifling through his novels/audios to find plot points to nick for his next finale. If they had to do a regeneration story, then please, PLEASE can we give it to a writer like Lawrence Miles, Alan Barnes, Gary Russell, Scott Gray, Kate Orman, Nick Briggs, or a raft of other amazing writers who actually know the character beyond crib notes from Miles’ books?
And finally, I’d like to ask you a question, Anon. Please do tell me, why the hell should I be happy about someone as obnoxious as Moffat getting to write what ultimately happened to my favourite Doctor?
Here you go, Eight fandom. I’m sure we’ll get a lot of use out of it. (Original gif by Harbek!)
So, uh, random thought while I was working earlier, thinking about various things to distract me from the mundane nature of the job:
In Production Notes in Doctor Who Magazine the other month, Moffat lists his favourite Sixth Doctor story as The Holy Terror. That made me quite happy when I read it, seeing Shearman and Big Finish get the praise they deserve.
But… Does it strike anyone else as intriguing that he lists as one of his favourite stories one where a creepy alien child goes around asking people if they’re his parental figure? A story that was released 5 years before The Empty Child?
Jane: “Don’t get me wrong, Oliver, I’m a very sexual person! In fact, I’m a very bisexual person, so I sort of double up on that.”
Oliver: “Yeah, yeah, you’re just frightened of naked people!”
Jane: “There’s naked, and there’s naked!”
Oliver: “You’re not bisexual!”
Jane: “I’m sorry?”
Oliver: “I don’t buy it!”
Jane: “You don’t what?”
Oliver: “And I don’t buy the crazy, wacky Jane thing. I don’t buy the you ‘follow the philosophy of plants’ thing. I think you’re terrified you’re not interesting enough, so you make up any old rubbish just to try and get attention. Do me a favour, look in the mirror! The way you look, as if you have to try!”
Jane: “I am so bisexual!”
*he holds up the porn magazine*
Oliver: “Jane, I’m a science fiction fan. I run a science fiction bookshop. It’s the headquarters of lonely. I am the boss of sad. You can fool everyone else, but you can’t fool me.”
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one thing though
Oh for fucks sake. Moffat can quite literally do nothing right anymore can he?
He created Jack. Pansexual hero known to millions.
He created the victorian multi-species lesbian relationship in Good Man Goes to War, apologies, I’ve forgot their names right now.
He created River- who admitted in Silence in the Library that she fancied all of her crew, male and female.
CANTON DELAWARE III.
These are characters from stories he’s wrote for Doctor Who and that’s just off the top of my head that I can think of right now.
And then in his other work, there’s the happy lesbian couple in Jekyll too.
Dont say that Moffat is homophobic, or that he’s perpetuating the stereotype that not being straight is only a phase. He’s given us some of the best queer characters in Doctor Who. One character who mentioned having a phase of believing she wasn’t completely straight- which hey, does happen sometimes! doesnt mean that Moffat is any sort of homophobic or perpetuating any sort of stereotype.
I am so fucking done with Tumblr. Jesus.
Sexuality fluctuates, alright? It changes. It CAN be a phase. I went through a phase where I thought I was strictly a lesbian! So she said she went through a phase. Is it really so wrong that she called it a phase?! No! It’s not! Because sexuality is hard to figure out, and it’s very fluid, and it’s perfectly okay for you to go through phases when trying to figure out your sexuality. It’s perfectly okay for you to say it was a phase. Guhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
First off, he didn’t create Jack. RTD did. Moffat just got the episode where he was introduced, and decided to fill it with mentions of him sleeping with a ton of people (which RTD said ‘probably wouldn’t come up’ in the show.) Do research.
Second off, since we’re mentioning Jekyll, why don’t we mention Coupling? Y’know, the series where the one bisexual character is treated as delusional, and bisexuality is treated as just a way to get men to fancy you. And ever since that point, bisexuality has only ever been mentioned by Moffat as a punchline or flirtatious stuff that’s subsequently ignored.
So no, don’t try and excuse him just because he’s written a few gay characters. And let’s not forget that he didn’t even bother to give NAMES to half the gay characters in AGMGTW, because it’s just so quirky and unusual, lol!